Holly records this one on the streets of Chicago—with a surprise audio cameo from her client and friend Tim Stevens—as she and Daniel dive into Seth Godin’s blog post The Superman Metaphors. It’s a banger of an episode, especially if you’re a fan of strategy, superheroes, or humanizing leadership.
Together, we explore:
• Why “the punching is boring” in work, life, and hero stories
• How imposter syndrome and hidden insecurities are our real secret identities
• What it means to lead with trust, and how mutual trust makes business better
• And Daniel’s favorite line from the new Superman movie… that might just change how you think about hope
Plus: why Holly’s allergic to cynicism, the story behind Daniel’s Superman yearbook photo, and a challenge to see yourself in the metaphors—cape or not.
Mentioned in this episode:
• Seth Godin’s post: The Superman Metaphors → Read it here
• Tim Stevens’ podcast: LeadingSmart
Superman, Strategy, and the Most Punk Rock Thing
Jul 14, 2025

Seth Said What? Podcast
Seth Said What? is a short-form podcast where a brother and sister riff on the timeless (and timely) ideas of Seth Godin.
Each episode starts with a spark — a line from Seth’s blog, a moment from his books, or a concept from a talk — and we run with it: reacting, questioning, laughing, and applying it to the creative, entrepreneurial, and very human mess of everyday life.
It’s part tribute, part think-aloud, and 100% unofficial.
Whether you're a longtime fan of Seth or just love fresh ideas and real conversation, this podcast will make you pause, smile, and maybe even ship your next big thing.
🎧 Short episodes. Big ideas. Just enough ruckus to keep you moving.
Seth Said What? is a short-form podcast where a brother and sister riff on the timeless (and timely) ideas of Seth Godin.
Each episode starts with a spark — a line from Seth’s blog, a moment from his books, or a concept from a talk — and we run with it: reacting, questioning, laughing, and applying it to the creative, entrepreneurial, and very human mess of everyday life.
It’s part tribute, part think-aloud, and 100% unofficial.
Whether you're a longtime fan of Seth or just love fresh ideas and real conversation, this podcast will make you pause, smile, and maybe even ship your next big thing.
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